
When I first got out to Deseret, I took a job answering phones for a satellite TV company. There were worse companies to work for. Like most call centers, it was a pretty hierarchial organization. We had a supervisor, but we also had a supervisor’s pool for whenever ours was either busy or out. Paid no more than $8/hour, I’d wager, they were nonetheless the big men (and women) in the room. A handful of them (but by no means all of ) were also quite cocky and condescending whenever you asked a question.
I now make more than they do at a job that would have greater upward mobility if I planned to stick around these parts. A number of my coworkers came from a call center in Mocum. Supervisors there (paid more than at my former employer) were more than happy to take a lowly Reports job at FalStaff. Part of me would really like to go back to one former supervisor in particular and rub it in his face that I’m in a better position than he is. It’s petty, I guess, but I’d really get a kick out of it.
Though I haven’t written about it as I intended to, my nemesis at work was a guy by the name of Teddy Forbes. Teddy was in QA (where I am now) right before I got here. He was the king of condescending. He used his position in the company to project an aura of superiority even as, I later found out, he was a terrible tester that rarely did any work and was more-or-less blackballed from going anywhere in the company. He left the company when he gave an ultimatum: up or out. Out he was.
Everyone from Teddy on down, everyone at both my former call center employer to almost everyone I talk about here, makes $10/hr or less in a job that garners little respect within the company. It’s enough to make anyone with a college degree a bit bitter. Teddy flashed around his college degree pretty frequently, never answering the question “If you’re such hot stuff, what are you doing here?”
I read somewhere that the biggest problem facing blacks in the Jim Crow era was not wealthy whites but rather poor ones. They were never a real threat to the wealthy, but the poor and uneducated whites desperately needed someone to feel superior to and acted accordingly. I’m not sure if that’s accurate, but the observations behind it are true enough. I think that some of the mid-lowers took out mostly needed a chance to feel superior than someone to make up for their own shortcomings, and so they picked on us littler people.
The thought occurred to me today as I was commenting that Willard and George have been doing a great job of picking QA people to pull from programming. I’m biased because I’m one of those people, of course, but the relations between QA and programming are better than they have ever been. Marc was pulled in to QA over people with more experience due to his people skills. Four of the five current QA testers worked under QA people with rather toxic personalities and I think that actually goes a way towards explaining our disposition. We’ve dealt with being condescended to and patronized, and we’ve no desire to make anyone else feel that way.
I was raised to treat anyone that works with respect. Even if they are just taking my orders at Happy Burger, there is never any reason to be unhelpfully rude. I find it interesting how many people out there are oblivious to the simple mechanics of teamwork. I may be in QA grading the work of coders, but we’re all on the same team. I’m even on the same team as the guy behind the Taco Hut counter. We both want the same things, more or less.
Another thing I remember reading somewhere was a quote that unfortunately I cannot source: It’s no accident that the black chess pieces and white chess pieces spend so much time fighting that they never realize that they have more in common with one another than they do their masters.

I’ve worked with quite a few people that acted morally superior, when in fact, they were, mentally, quite inferior. I’m sure that’s why the were the way they were. Not enough sense to not act like an ass.
Comment by InterstellarLass — October 28, 2005 @ 11:16 am
I wonder if there’s a different dynamic with women, for I also found women to be more likely to be rude, and superior-like. It’s almost like you have to become a bitch in order to deal with the real ones.
Comment by Becky — October 29, 2005 @ 5:23 am
Funny you should note that dynamic with women. I guess with the female friends I’ve had in the past, I’d never been with a group of women who were bitchy or backstabbing. Then I ended up on the Labor and Delivery rotation at our local hospital, where there are exclusively female nurses. Holy jesus, I’ve never seen any group of women talk such trash about each other behind each other’s backs. It floored me. I just kept my mouth shut and was very careful not to get drawn into any of that, and I still ended up with problems with people doing that to me. What makes this more interesting is that pretty much every single female resident that’s come through our program has had problems with the L&D nurses like I did, and none of the guys have. On my evaluations, as did the other female residents, I got a lot of remarks to the effect that I did not play well with others. Never happened to me with any other rotation — however much of a barbed tongue I may have in my private life,
I’m extremely careful about what I say in public, in a professional context — but there’s no other rotations with exclusively female nurses. Interesting, don’t you think?
Comment by Clancy — October 29, 2005 @ 5:27 pm
I should also add that there’s some of those same elements of a perceived power struggle between the female L&D nurses and the female residents (MDs)as with what Will was talking about. Early on, I tried to make it clear that I respected the knowledge of these nurses, some of whom have been nurses since practically before I was born; in short, that just because I was a (brand-new) MD, I wasn’t going to try to pull rank or anything. You don’t get much greener than a new resident in the first month of residency, and I was well aware of how much I didn’t know. Regardless of that, I think that some of them still viewed me and the other female residents as a threat. Stupid, really, ‘cause anyone who works in medicine knows, or should know, that the nurses can make or break things for them, that they have the potential to be your savior periodically or to make your life a living hell. I guess maybe some of think that we don’t know that and that they have to make sure we do, but between that, and perhaps feeling threatened, you definitely see some of the bitchiness and attitudes that Becky describes.
Okay, I’ll step off the soapbox now. . .
Comment by Clancy — October 29, 2005 @ 5:39 pm
I touched on the women-on-women behavior a little while ago, though I didn’t give it the full treatment. Maybe I should.
Comment by trumwill — October 31, 2005 @ 12:44 am