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	<title>Comments on: Mourning the IT gold rush.</title>
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	<description>Addled thoughts of a quality assurance dope</description>
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		<title>by: Peter</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8319</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:54:07 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I wonder why journalists never commit any of these grand homicidal gestures?&lt;/i&gt;

My reasoned guess is that journalists are more likely to be psychologically and socially normal than are IT people.  Pathologically introverted nerds with zero social skills aren't likely to go into journalism, while they often do go into IT, and maladjusted people of that sort are at higher risk of going wild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I wonder why journalists never commit any of these grand homicidal gestures?</i></p>
	<p>My reasoned guess is that journalists are more likely to be psychologically and socially normal than are IT people.  Pathologically introverted nerds with zero social skills aren&#8217;t likely to go into journalism, while they often do go into IT, and maladjusted people of that sort are at higher risk of going wild.
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		<title>by: web</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8320</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:55:16 -0600</pubDate>
		<guid>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8320</guid>
					<description>Part of the problem for any job is automation.

If you distill things down to a script - or *think* you can - then you can give it to robots or unskilled workers. Programming has, in many senses, been distilled down to a script. It's not a question of finding new or innovative solutions, just rewriting the same code that's been used before.

Customer service has this same phenomenon, as well.

The reason for the flack against H1-B's is simple: they get paid so much less than normal workers, AND they are brought over preferably against regular workers. The very existence of the H1-B visa in anything but overwhelming boom times is a giant extended middle finger right in the faces of the middle class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Part of the problem for any job is automation.</p>
	<p>If you distill things down to a script - or *think* you can - then you can give it to robots or unskilled workers. Programming has, in many senses, been distilled down to a script. It&#8217;s not a question of finding new or innovative solutions, just rewriting the same code that&#8217;s been used before.</p>
	<p>Customer service has this same phenomenon, as well.</p>
	<p>The reason for the flack against H1-B&#8217;s is simple: they get paid so much less than normal workers, AND they are brought over preferably against regular workers. The very existence of the H1-B visa in anything but overwhelming boom times is a giant extended middle finger right in the faces of the middle class.
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		<title>by: stone</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8321</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:06:48 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;My reasoned guess is that journalists are more likely to be psychologically and socially normal than are IT people.&quot;

Really?

In my experience, journalists are likely to be depressive; hystrionic; immature; heavy substance users or abusers; physically unattractive; childless or with troubled children; and with troubled or no relationships.  This is probably less true for the small minority who work in large, well-paying media like the NY Times.  Poverty and insecurity probably have a lot to do with the high dysfunctionality.

My own guess is that 1) we're not as technically proficient as IT guys (how many reporters have a pilot's license like Stack did?); 2) we had lower expectations of our careers to begin with, so even when we're bitter and screwed it's not as mind-blowing as someone who thought he could be Bill Gate; and 3) there are just fewer of us, per capita.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;My reasoned guess is that journalists are more likely to be psychologically and socially normal than are IT people.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Really?</p>
	<p>In my experience, journalists are likely to be depressive; hystrionic; immature; heavy substance users or abusers; physically unattractive; childless or with troubled children; and with troubled or no relationships.  This is probably less true for the small minority who work in large, well-paying media like the NY Times.  Poverty and insecurity probably have a lot to do with the high dysfunctionality.</p>
	<p>My own guess is that 1) we&#8217;re not as technically proficient as IT guys (how many reporters have a pilot&#8217;s license like Stack did?); 2) we had lower expectations of our careers to begin with, so even when we&#8217;re bitter and screwed it&#8217;s not as mind-blowing as someone who thought he could be Bill Gate; and 3) there are just fewer of us, per capita.
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		<title>by: Peter</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8324</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:53:43 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm very surprised about journalists' personalities.  You'd think that a person would have to be outgoing and personable to succeed in that profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m very surprised about journalists&#8217; personalities.  You&#8217;d think that a person would have to be outgoing and personable to succeed in that profession.
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		<title>by: web</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8325</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:13:30 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>I have to agree with Sheila. Journalism is a field people go into to &quot;make changes&quot; these days.

You also need to distinguish journalists from &quot;reporters&quot;; &quot;reporters&quot; are the pretty-face types that get put onto the TV newscasts and wind up with endorsement/advertising deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have to agree with Sheila. Journalism is a field people go into to &#8220;make changes&#8221; these days.</p>
	<p>You also need to distinguish journalists from &#8220;reporters&#8221;; &#8220;reporters&#8221; are the pretty-face types that get put onto the TV newscasts and wind up with endorsement/advertising deals.
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		<title>by: stone</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8326</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:51:32 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;You also need to distinguish journalists from “reporters”; “reporters” are the pretty-face types that get put onto the TV newscasts and wind up with endorsement/advertising deals.&quot;

Web, those are the &quot;on-camera&quot; people.  Reporters are the people who actually gather the information and write the stuff, either for news or TV.  Plenty of unattractive people behind the scenes in TV, suffering similar fates.

Peter, it's true one can't be a pathological introvert.  But being outgoing doesn't mean you still can't be dysfunctional.

The journalism industry conditions reporters to have a sanctimonious attitude about what they do, much as if they were working for non-profits. This makes it easy to exploit them. Reporters put up with a lot because they believe they're doing good.  It's a great recipe for bitterness once they figure out they're being used and, in most cases, eventually discarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;You also need to distinguish journalists from “reporters”; “reporters” are the pretty-face types that get put onto the TV newscasts and wind up with endorsement/advertising deals.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Web, those are the &#8220;on-camera&#8221; people.  Reporters are the people who actually gather the information and write the stuff, either for news or TV.  Plenty of unattractive people behind the scenes in TV, suffering similar fates.</p>
	<p>Peter, it&#8217;s true one can&#8217;t be a pathological introvert.  But being outgoing doesn&#8217;t mean you still can&#8217;t be dysfunctional.</p>
	<p>The journalism industry conditions reporters to have a sanctimonious attitude about what they do, much as if they were working for non-profits. This makes it easy to exploit them. Reporters put up with a lot because they believe they&#8217;re doing good.  It&#8217;s a great recipe for bitterness once they figure out they&#8217;re being used and, in most cases, eventually discarded.
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		<title>by: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8328</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:30:56 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm guessing that when journalists get downsized, they just figure it to be an opportunity to become novelists.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m guessing that when journalists get downsized, they just figure it to be an opportunity to become novelists.
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		<title>by: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8331</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:56:31 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>IT doesn't seem to be any worse than manufacturing.  The below is from 2004...not that things have picked up since then.

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=5078&amp;amp;type=0

 The manufacturing sector of the U.S. economy has experienced substantial job losses over the past several years. In January 2004, the number of such jobs stood at 14.3 million, down by 3.0 million jobs, or 17.5 percent, since July 2000 and about 5.2 million since the historical peak in 1979. Employment in manufacturing was its lowest since July 1950 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>IT doesn&#8217;t seem to be any worse than manufacturing.  The below is from 2004&#8230;not that things have picked up since then.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=5078&amp;type=0' rel='nofollow'>http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=5078&amp;type=0</a></p>
	<p> The manufacturing sector of the U.S. economy has experienced substantial job losses over the past several years. In January 2004, the number of such jobs stood at 14.3 million, down by 3.0 million jobs, or 17.5 percent, since July 2000 and about 5.2 million since the historical peak in 1979. Employment in manufacturing was its lowest since July 1950
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		<title>by: stone</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8335</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:10:08 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>But Kirk, that's part of the point.  IT was kind of supposed to *replace* manufacturing as a source of dependable, skilled jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But Kirk, that&#8217;s part of the point.  IT was kind of supposed to *replace* manufacturing as a source of dependable, skilled jobs.
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		<title>by: ecco</title>
		<link>http://hitcoffee.net/index.php/file/2041#comment-8336</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:44:19 -0600</pubDate>
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					<description>Unfortunately, healthcare seems to be the only sector that has added large numbers of workers, which is really scary especially if you project out the trendlines.  Of course, blah blah blah you can't really forecast that far in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Unfortunately, healthcare seems to be the only sector that has added large numbers of workers, which is really scary especially if you project out the trendlines.  Of course, blah blah blah you can&#8217;t really forecast that far in the future.
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